While Todd talks with Brad Sullivan about light and Darkness Andrew calls in and we record him on speakerphone. We talk about the darkest places we have ever been from caves in the mountains on the Buffalo River, being stuck in a military sleeping bag, Nearly dying while riding with the Game Warden with night vision goggles, Andrew's new "Z" baby on the way and lots more. Ultimately we talk about John 1:6-9, and Psalm 27:1, the Jesus is the True Light, our salvation, and the Strength of our life.